This first edition of Women for Women Breda (WfW Breda) was a pilot featuring 10 Talents from Breda and the West Brabant region based on the successful Eindhoven initiative. WfW Breda is a collaboration between the Expat Spouses Initiative (ESI), Breda Internationals, and the Living In program of Holland Expat Center South.
To drive home the importance of making use of every talent here in the region, Milou Audenaerd, Labour Market Advisor at UWV West-Brabant outlined the status of the West-Brabant labour market.

CBS (Centraal Bureau voor de Statistiek) forecast that the Netherlands will grow this year and the next, but it will be less than in previous years. What does that mean for the labour market? In West Brabant, the number of jobs will continue to increase in 2023 but will come to a halt in 2024. There are two reasons for this: one is the lower projected economic growth and the other is that staff shortages will have a direct impact on growth. Companies simply cannot grow without staff. This is the first time that labour market shortages have determined economic growth.

The Key to Unlock Untapped Talent
The next panel gave insights into what some companies are doing and can do to reach different talent pools, like those of accompanying partners or international students. The panel included Lisette Jacobs, chief human resources officer and chief of staff at Lamb Weston; Paula Olivacce-van Haren, head of people at Ericsson, and Thato Motloung, researcher of smart cities and logistics at the Breda University of Applied Sciences. The panel discussion was moderated by Roopasharee Narayan, a team member of the Expat Spouses Initiative responsible for people engagement and human resources outreach.
“If you look at the diversity and inclusion in our organisation when I joined nine years ago, it was already there, especially [for] nationalities. However, if you look at age diversity, that is the real challenge, and is still a challenge because young people come and go.”
When it comes to using new and creative ways to reach different talent pools, Thato recommends that companies “go to where they are”. She continued, “If you keep on fishing in the same pond, you are probably going to find the same type of fish. What is the first place that underrepresented communities go to, that is where you can start sourcing them, from their communities.” At Ericsson, they are targeting diversity in a few ways, such as telling their recruiters to hire from diverse groups and using targets to keep them accountable. “If we don’t set the targets, it’ harder to get that change in the mindset,” Paula said.
Thato:
“We’ve heard from Carmen, that it does help to speak Dutch, but from the government’s side It might also help to lower that as an entry barrier, because that is a big entry barrier for internationals. If you come into the country, you risk becoming deskilled in the process of learning a language. It doesn’t take one month, and it doesn’t take two months to get to a professional level of Dutch. So, we need to find a compromise.”
Lisette:
“[Government needs to invest in infrastructure such as housing, childcare, and transportation.] If you look at local levels, investment in programs like this helps. I think it would be a waste if after the first year [Women for Women Breda] wouldn’t continue…If you look at the employee side, it’s important to create a work environment where people feel welcome.”

- Sukanya Vashishtha, Biotech Engineer
- Vusula Guliyeva, International Relations & Project Coordinator
- Chitra Vignesh, Corporate Consultant
- Simonetta Cota, User Experience Designer
- Sabita Van Delft-Amin, International and European Legal Project Coordinator
- Janet Vigueras, Lawyer
- Ezgi Boyer Ipek, Mechanical Design Engineer
- Cristina Otte, Marketing, Sales & Strategy
- Berran Tuncer, DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) Agent and English Teacher
- Rachana Thosar, Back Office Support for Financial Services & Administration

The Big Picture: Internationalisation and Integration
International professionals can be beneficial to regional companies but their inclusion in the local labour market and society has many different layers that must be considered. This is especially true since internationalisation and integration are not mature topics in Breda. The panel debated the wider approach for Breda can become more international and the importance of collaboration. The panellists were Carmen Rasmussen; Thijs Taminiau, Team Leader of Foreign Investments at Brabantse Ontwikkelings Maatschappij (BOM); Kris De Prins, Manager Director of Holland Expat Center South and; Nadine Gooijers, Strategic Advisor & Program Manager for Gemeente Breda. The discussion was moderated by Alina Totti, Policy Advisor of International Cooperation for the Province of North Brabant.
“I have seen the Talents grow so much and in such a short time of three months. [The program] was quite a personal experience for me too because I also went through the same thing. I arrived [years ago] and I started a marketing job at Breda Business, but I didn’t speak Dutch. But they gave they gave me a chance and they gave me lessons... And that’s my story for other internationals, you can do it. But the companies need to see that there is potential. People are willing to learn, and I am one of the greatest examples.”
“In essence [the Holland Expat Center] helps internationals with settling. We help them with their formalities and all kinds of information that they need…But we do have outreach to companies as well, because we need both sides. If we have international talent present…we need to prep the SMEs as well to receive [them]. We created the International Talent Scan which can be filled out by companies and… they can see where they are when it comes to selecting, onboarding, and retaining international talent…If there are some blind spots, the scan will tell and give you advice on how to tackle that issue.”
“Parties on all levels, provincial, national and local need to have a mindset that international people do matter. But let’s not wait to get that commitment from employers to make that shift to understand that the commitment is bigger than the first hire; it extends to the family, it extends to the spouse. Let’s work together to find the employers that want to collaborate with us to make change. And that [their] commitment [should also be] financial.”
Thijs agreed, “It’s important to work together as a sector. Because you cannot solve this problem anymore as a company alone. I think [companies] are looking for initiatives like this one to support this [goal].”
Carmen also agreed:
“Breda is working on becoming an international hotspot for applied technology and creativity. But to become this international hotspot for technology and creativity, we need the talents because they bring diversity…They bring different ideas. They can innovate your company and make your company grow.… but we need companies also to be open minded and hire [international] talents.”

Together is the word that best sums up the Women for Women Breda Closing Finale. Local and national governments, non-profits and companies must work together to solve the talent shortage and create the Breda of the future. Talents and companies need to be flexible start conversing to find commonality. We, the Expat Spouses Initiative, Breda Internationals and Holland Expat Center South, have started the conversation already that will drive change in Breda. But it is up to all those present to take it further within their own networks and businesses. Are you ready?
Companies: If you are a local organization looking for international talent or if you want to learn more about the Expat Spouses Initiative, please contact us. We also have a diversity, equity, and inclusion initiative called Including You for early-adopters, either as a company or individual, to join.
Organisations: If you are a local organization passionate about helping internationals integrate or would like to brainstorm ways to collaborate with the Expat Spouses Initiative, please contact us via our webform.
Talents: To stay informed about our programs and workshops, we invite you to follow the Expat Spouses Initiative and Breda Internationals on LinkedIn. You can also join the ESI community by completing the profile form. Your profile will help us connect you to possible networking and job opportunities as well as information about upcoming ESI events and programs.


